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Chick-Fil-A: we’re back!

Still trying to make a suburban model urban

I found out at very late notice that a subcommittee of the Design Review Committee was meeting today at City Hall in a working session with representatives of Chick-Fil-A, to discuss a revised proposal for the prominent site at the corner of Highland Avenue and 20th Street South in the heart of Five Points South. As many already know, their previous proposal has been denied twice: once by Design Review, and once by the Appeals Board just a couple weeks ago.

So it was with great interest that I hurried to the meeting to observe the proceedings.

First, subcommittee chairman Richard Mauk laid out the guidelines–that the subcommittee expected Chick-Fil-A to respond to each of the points laid out by the Appeals Board. The implication was: if you don’t address each point, then you don’t have much chance of success with a new presentation.

Chick-Fil-A started their presentation, once again using a site plan showing no surrounding buildings or other neighborhood context. This is Presentation 101, especially when you’ve just been raked over the coals for not being sensitive to the neighborhood. Besides the lack of context, the site plan was most notable for still containing a drive-through, and for still containing the same basic proportion of building mass to open parking (2 of the main concerns of both previous “No” votes).

While the Chick-Fil-A in-house engineer was attempting to explain the plan, committee member Don Cosper asked why the location needed so many parking spaces when only 21 are required by code [almost every surrounding business has a variance on parking and very few have on-site parking at all]. The answer from the Chick-Fil-A traffic engineer was, “we just have a large site so we are filling it with more parking than we are required.”

What ensued was a somewhat circular discussion, with Design Review members Mauk, Cosper, Cheryl Morgan, and Mark Fugnitto continually reminding Chick-Fil-A about the importance of neighborhood, pedestrians, and context, and Chick-Fil-A appearing a bit caught off -guard (again, despite the appeal process they’ve just been through). The company has now hired an outside design consultant (architect Bill Allswell–I’m afraid I’m not spelling his name correctly). This architect also presented two proposed exterior elevations, one which he admitted was “more suburban” and one which was “more contextual”. Neither was aesthetically very pleasing, though each tried to extend the mass of the actual building with some false screen walls.

Morgan was especially adamant that false screen walls do not substitute for active storefronts engaging pedestrian life in an urban area. She summed it up by saying that CFA still has a very suburban plan, and they need to return with something new, at which point the “working committee” would meet with them again.

All in all, a somewhat bizarre meeting: with all the resources CFA has, and all they’ve been through, you would think they would have a more sophisticated visual presentation, and one that truly addressed the points in the Appeal Board denial. Instead it was 95% more of the same.

I will try to alert everyone to the time of the next working session, assuming it’s open to the public again.

Finally, looming in the background but mainly unspoken today: the drive-through. Still in the plan. Which is bewildering.

FOOTNOTE: out of courtesy to the designers presenting, I’m unable to show any of their draft renderings on this blog.

[thanks to link576 for the Chick-Fil-A bags]

Chick-Fil-A Denied…Again

About 30 minutes ago, the special appeals board upheld the Design Review Committee’s decision to deny Chick-Fil-A the right to build a stand-alone drive-through restaurant at the corner of 20th Street South and Highland Avenue in the heart of the historic Five Points South neighborhood.

In making the motion to uphold, board member Elizabeth Barbaree-Tasker noted the following to her fellow members, David Allen and Frederick Chatman:

1. A drive-through is not appropriate to the intent of the Commercial Revitalization District ordinance;

2. Traffic counts (verified at 38,000 cars per day at this intersection) make this an inappropriate place to further burden the traffic stream;

3. The site plan (a small stand-alone building surrounded by a sea of parking) is not appropriate to the surrounding context, where all buildings–except this one proposed–fill the full frontage with building mass;

4. The design is not architecturally compatible with the neighborhood. Other, historic buildings are clearly adaptable into multiple uses, while the Chick-Fil-A building is designed to be ONLY a Chick-Fil-A, to look like other Chick-Fil-A’s across the country, and to not be easily adaptable as something else.

5. The dumpster is not well-located on the site.

The motion was seconded, and the vote was a unanimous “Aye” to uphold the DRC.

As a reminder to Chick-Fil-A: we love your chicken, we really do. But we expect something closer to the below–which you already have in downtown’s northside–if you want to come to downtown’s southside!

Urban Chick-Fil-A just a few blocks away

PS: it will remain to be seen if the property owners go to court over this, or if better heads will prevail and a satisfactorily urban Plan B is proposed.

PPS: Form Based Code needed!

Playing Chicken

Come unto me, all ye miscreants

Today was the first of 3 public hearings of the special Appeals Board hearing Chick-Fil-A‘s appeal of the Design Review Committee‘s unanimous decision to deny the construction of a stand-alone restaurant and drive-through at the corner of Highland Avenue and 20th Street South in the heart of Five Points South. 3 1/2 hours later, here’s the (longish) report:

1. Attorney Charlie Beavers, representing Chick-Fil-A, reduces the case to a fundamental question: did the DRC have the right to deny this project based on its proposed use? Answer: no, it did not. The use is allowed by current zoning and the DRC overstepped its bounds. He then proceeds to argue that, beyond this simple fact, Chick-Fil-A bent over backwards to modify its design numerous times, resulting in a very urban and appropriate design. At least according to Mr. Beavers.

2. Erwin Reed, Vice-President of Chick-Fil-A in charge of real estate, then states his corporation “doesn’t like to come to neighborhoods where we are not wanted.” He assures the chamber (about 50 people in all) that once it was built, the neighbors would love the place.

3. The opposition now has a chance to state its views. Attorney Alton Parker stands to contend the plan as drawn is suburban both in style and traffic accommodation, and therefore is not in keeping with the character of the neighborhood. “Why does Chick-Fil-A insist on doing something so opposed by the neighborhood?  Why insist on the drive-through?” [Note: both the Commercial Revitalization District and National Register designation papers, which were adopted as city ordinance, call for development in the neighborhood to be complementary and consistent with the historic, pedestrian character of the place; it is on these ordinances which the DRC based their ruling.]

Mike Calvert, president of Operation New Birmingham, states that he has 40 years of experience as an urban planner and expert witness on the topic, and this plan neither conforms to the City Center Master Plan nor to the Five Points South Revitalization Plan, and the DRC ruling should be upheld.

Bob Moody, adjacent property owner for 30 years, asks the board to uphold the ruling.

Frank Stitt, Alabama’s and one of the South’s most famed restaurateurs, states he loves Chick-Fil-A, but a drive-through is not appropriate on this site.

James Little, president of the Five Points South Merchant group, reminds the board that both his group and the Neighborhood Association approved (non-binding) resolutions opposing the current plan. He also states that Chick-Fil-A itself has admitted it needs a more “urban” prototype for pedestrian neighborhoods, and is implementing a pilot program in Chicago. He mentions the long lines at local suburban Chick-Fil-A outlets, and how this tight urban site can’t accommodate such traffic.

Joseph Baker, organizer of I Believe in Birmingham, speaks passionately  about the urban nature of the neighborhood, how we can’t put inappropriate uses into these special areas, and that corporations are not citizens. And if they go against the will of citizens, a boycott will be announced.

Betty Bock speaks about traffic nightmares if the plan were allowed.

Libby Rich says Chick-Fil-A is “a wonderful corporation. But this is our neighborhood. You [Chick-Fil-A] have overstepped your bounds.”

Ron Council points out the plan drawing only shows the property with almost no context, i.e. it leaves out all the historic structures around the intersection. More traffic woes for elderly people who walk or use wheelchairs on the sidewalks and must cross curb cuts.

Alison Glascock, Highland Park Neighborhood president, states she is not anti-corporation, but wants corporations to listen to the neighborhoods in which they locate. She regrets this situation has become “us vs. them.”

A long slog of a hearing

4. Charlie Beavers now stands up for Chick-Fil-A to rebut. He mentions the company’s traffic engineers have studied the site and are satisfied it will be fine. He insists this is indeed an urban design. He again asks the Board to overturn the DRC.

5. Greg Despinakas stands on behalf of the owner (who would lease the land to Chick-Fil-A). This is perhaps the most colorful moment: in a fiery, preacher-like sermon, he declares this project would be a “God-given enhancement to the neighborhood.” Which he then describes as deteriorating, filled with “…miscreants.  And head shops. And tattoo parlors. Broken glass. Piercing shops. Graffiti.” Even…saloons! He then dramatically turns to the audience and says. “Clean it up! Before you tell Chick-Fil-A what to do, clean up your own neighborhood!”

6. It’s now question time from the Board. How many customers will be served?  250-300,000 annually, about 50% of which is drive-through. Why this site? Because it maximizes our investment. Can you survive without a drive-through? We could, but this would not meet our financial expectations. How can you assure us that stacked cars waiting for the drive-through won’t be a nightmare at peak times? Trust us. We are the fastest drive-through in the US and we’ll hire traffic directors at peak times if required.

7. Executive Session. For maybe 30 minutes. Break time. Milling around, some wary hellos between camps, but mainly each sticks to his own.

8. Board returns. They ask the hours of store operation (6AM-10PM M-T; 6AM-11PM F,Sat; closed Sun). They announce the next public hearing is 8:30 AM Friday June 18, Room 215 City Hall. But no more public comments on that date; it’s just deliberation with public observation. One more important item: the board asks City staff to provide updated traffic counts for that intersection by Friday morning. With current budget woes at the City, there are not exactly extra bodies sitting around to count traffic. Here’s wishing staff good luck with this request!

So that’s it for now–stay tuned.

The takeaway? We need a form-based code for this neighborhood (and others)! Pronto. No one wants to sit through this again, trust me.

[thanks to southernpixel for the shot of Frank Fleming’s sculpture at Five Points fountain]

Now or Never: Chick-Fil-A and Walgreen’s Updates

It is time to make yourself heard. Public hearings are set for two controversial issues:

The City Council’s Economic Development Committee will discuss the proposal to sell the historic Fire Station No. 22 to Walgreen’s Drugstore on June 7 at 4 PM in the Council conference suite at City Hall. In related news, local developer and Highland Park resident David Carrigan has put together a counter-proposal that fully preserves and restores the Fire Station into a neighborhood gastropub. You can see the website here.  (Full disclosure — the rendering below is by the writer of this blog)

Another path

Second, the Birmingham News reports today that a special panel–set up to hear Chick-Fil-A’s appeal after the unanimous decision of the Design Review Committee to deny their building a stand-alone restaurant and drive-through at the corner of 20th Street and Highland Avenue South in the heart of Five Points South–will hold public hearings June 16, 18, and 21. They will then rule on the matter within 7 days of the last hearing.

This is one particular situation where Form Based Code would be potentially very useful. While Chick-Fil-A argues that this is purely a zoning matter (and indeed drive-throughs and stand-alone restaurants are allowed by zoning on this property), the neighborhood and other advocates (including myself) argue that the Commercial Revitalization and Historic District organizing papers clearly state that new development should be in keeping with the character of the neighborhood. These papers are city ordinance, just like zoning. Instead of one lawyer arguing that an ordinance takes precedence over another, Form Based Code would settle the matter up front, telling any prospective developer that along certain streets, or within certain blocks, there can be no drive-through. Or no building less than a certain height. Or all parking must be hidden at the rear of the lot.

The process of putting together a Form Based Code is typically driven by neighborhood consensus. Highland Park is the first City neighborhood to adopt such a code–just a few weeks ago. In order to protect the urban assets we have, and enhance them with thoughtful, coordinated development, Five Points South and other neighborhoods should consider following Highland Park’s lead.

If you care about the urban environment in Birmingham, please plan to attend any or all of these important meetings.

Stay tuned for reports on the upcoming public hearings in both cases.

Wagging a tail

Revealing

Yesterday, Dog Days of Birmingham–the new pet grooming/daycare facility was presented at Design Review. Housed in the former Hunter Furniture Building on 18th Street North, the business will occupy the first floor and the owner will live in a loft apartment to be constructed on the second floor.

Once the 1960’s false front was recently taken down (you can see what that looked like here) the original masonry facade and windows were revealed, pretty much intact.

Architect Michael Gibson with Appleseed Workshop presented the plan for exterior renovation, including a sketch of a proposed asymmetrically angled bay window extending over 3 of the historic second floor openings. I held my breath wondering if the Committee would approve such a “modern” intervention to the historic structure.

The Committee unanimously approved it–I think in part because the intervention was relatively modest, and didn’t damage the existing facade. I also think there is a growing understanding on the Committee that historic preservation can accommodate thoughtful, contemporary design as part of the plan. But judge for yourself: Michael’s rendering is below.

Another angle

[Thanks to Michael Gibson for the rendering]

Putting out fires

An open letter to Kathy Okrongley, President of Connolly Net Lease, LLC–the developer of a proposed Walgreen’s drugstore at the site of historic Fire Station No. 22, Bogue’s Restaurant, and Clairmont Auto on Clairmont Avenue South:

Dear Ms. Okrongley:

I read with interest the article in today’s Birmingham News, where you state you want to work with the neighborhood and the Design Review Committee to come up with a proposal acceptable to all. Given the current neighborhood aversion to the project as depicted so far–tearing down the historic Fire Station No. 22 and other small, local businesses including the 70-year-old Bogue’s Restaurant, and replacing them with a generic, boxy Walgreen’s drugstore, asphalt parking lot, and drive-through–I welcome this willingness to explore alternatives. I know the members of the Facebook protest site, as well as the brand-new civic group I Believe in Birmingham, are also cautiously optimistic about your next steps.

A second chance?

First: the excellent points you discuss. You say you’re an architect by training, and have an appreciation for historic structures. You say you’re interested in developing a sustainable design, possibly with LEED certification. You say that you are seriously considering saving all or part of the Fire Station and incorporating it into the design. You also say you will work to find another neighborhood location for Bogue’s, carefully restoring the historic neon sign at a new location.

As Alison Glascock, Highland Park neighborhood president states in the article, a lot of opposition “would end” if the above goals were all achieved.

Second: the note of caution: I’m reading good things, but an actual detailed plan is yet to be presented. I don’t want some clumsy pastiche that makes a few “references” to the historic Spanish-style architecture of the Fire Station. I don’t want Bogue’s and Clairmont Auto to just disappear for a parking lot–I want an earnest effort to relocate them. I know the corporation, Walgreen’s, that you represent has the resources to commit to fine design, neighborhood involvement, and relocation of existing businesses–if the will is truly there.

Ms. Okrongley, there are plenty of local community leaders and neighbors–and designers (this author included)–who’d be delighted to work with you to make this a winning project for everyone. Please understand that if the Walgreen’s effort falls short of your newly stated intentions, I feel the City has an obligation to reopen its RFP process to other developers who stand by committed to preserving the Fire Station and local businesses. I’m eager to see your next step.

Yours sincerely, etc.

Walgreen's CAN do urban, pedestrian, and contextual. And historic neon.

[thanks to acnatta for the Bogue’s shot, and willcrusta for the Walgreen’s in New Orleans]

An unappealing appeal

Chick-Fil-A will appeal last week’s Design Review Committee decision to not allow the company to construct a freestanding restaurant and drive through on the corner of 20th Street and Highland Avenue South in Five Points. The City must convene a special Board of Appeals to hear the case. You can see the Birmingham Business Journal story here.

We will post more when we hear more. Stay tuned.

Design Review Alert

Design Review Committee will meet Wednesday morning (May 12) at 7:30 AM on the Third Floor of the Center for Regional Planning and Design, 1731 First Avenue North. Thus far there are only 2 items on the agenda (more may be added by Wednesday:

1. Street Banners for Woodlawn;

2. Chick-Fil-A project for Five Points South.

Magic City Manifesto posted an interesting piece this morning about Councilor Austin being upset about several concrete benches being removed to make way for expanded outdoor seating for Cafe Dupont on downtown’s 20th street. Personally, I would rather have vibrant storefronts with lots of outdoor seating–as opposed to empty storefronts and lots of benches. Especially sad, tired old benches. You can view the Birmingham News piece here.

Great architecture and trees; not so great 1970's sidewalks, street furniture, benches

If Councilor Austin were really concerned about 20th Street, he would be working on a long-range complete renovation of the dated, 1970’s -era plantings and street furnishings, which lend a worn-out air to the whole street.  These benches are hardly “historic” or “art” as he states.

Finally, please check out the new Facebook protest site for anyone interested in stopping Walgreen’s from destroying the gorgeous, historic Fire Station No. 22 on Clairmont Avenue. The City Council should vote tomorrow on the sale. City Councilors, please heed the wishes of concerned citizens and don’t sell this historic landmark for $200,000 to Walgreen’s!

(thanks to pjchmiel for the pic)

4-Alarm Shock

An architectural gem

Just when we had our hands full with a proposed drive-through Chick-Fil-A in Five Points, along comes this punch in the jaw at Design Review this morning: the historic Fire Station No. 22, recently vacated, is on the table for demolition. It would be replaced with a Walgreen’s drugstore and parking lot. And a drive-through. On yet another important, gateway corner (Clairmont Avenue and 32nd Street).

Except this time the owner isn’t proposing tearing down a Ruby Tuesday’s built in the 1990s, but a wonderful Spanish-style fire station built in the 1920s. And the owner just happens to be the City of Birmingham, which is perhaps the most shocking part of this. Hasn’t this City learned enough about tearing down historic structures and what that does to a neighborhood fabric? And to a sense of place?

A dismal idea

To their credit, the Design Review Committee refused to approve this conceptual site plan, and insisted Walgreen’s return with exterior elevations suitable for an urban environment, including pedestrian-friendly storefront and sidewalk entries (no exteriors were presented today). Alison Glascock, Highland Park neighborhood president, stood to commend the Committee for its stance.

City of Birmingham–you need to be actively seeking creative redevelopment of the historic fire station, not tearing down another piece of our history to replace with banal, suburban-style architecture! And if you need an architect to help figure that out, I know where to find one.

(thanks to Birmingham Firefighters Local 117 for the historic photo, and to LAI engineering for the Walgreen’s plan)

UPDATE: INSPIRATIONS

Not that there is one right way to go here, but I feel strongly about the historic structure and the accessible nature of its scale.  Just a few pieces of eye candy to get the creative juices flowing here:

Let’s think outdoor seating — bridging Lakeview and Forest Park:

stopping in for pizza...

Love this restaurant concept in an old fire house in LA:

Firehouse themed restaurant!

And this is just for fun but to live in a firehouse!!

note the fire pole hole!

(thanks to Engine Co. No. 28, insidetheperimeter, and designpublic for the above images)

UPDATE #2: BOGUE”S RESTAURANT TO BE DEMOLISHED UNDER THIS PLAN

The Walgreen’s plan would not just take out the neighboring service station, but also Bogue’s Restaurant, an historic fixture on Birmingham’s Southside for many decades.

The end of an era?

Design Review Alert

For those who are interested and able, the City’s Design Review Committee meets tomorrow (Wednesday April 14) at 7:30 AM at the Third Floor of the Center for Regional Planning and Design, 1731 First Avenue North.

On the agenda are the Five Points South Chick-Fil-A site plan, addition to the School of the Fine Arts, and other, mainly smaller items. These meetings are nominally open to the public, although there is not really any time allotted for public comment. And, the Committee is bound to follow City regulations: if a drive-through is allowed, as much as the Committee, the public, or anyone else may disagree–until the City changes this regulation, the DRC is relatively impotent to stop it (they can delay if they have reason to believe the regulation is ambiguous, etc).

It’s an imperfect setting, but a allows a small window into some of the things being proposed around the city proper. I will plan on being there myself and will report back on anything interesting that transpires. Until then, I’ll leave you with a snapshot I took the other day showing the Cityville Block 121 apartments well underway on 20th Street South across Second Avenue South, where an old, Spanish-style stucco former service station still stands.

Old greeting the new